[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] pkgstats: first results

Dieter Plaetinck dieter at plaetinck.be
Mon Nov 10 17:18:09 EST 2008


Hubert Grzeskowiak wrote:
> Charly Ghislain wrote:
>   
>> On Monday 10 November 2008 08:21:38 RedShift wrote:
>>     
>>> Just a warning, generalizing based on these numbers (and on any numbers in
>>> fact) is very dangerous.
>>>       
>> I agree.
>> The fact that data comes from users who volontary installed the pkgstat 
>> package make the results biased.
>> The best 'statistical' way should be including this in pacman, whithout asking 
>> user for permission to submit. 
>> The best etical way shoud be the same, but asking user for permission before 
>> submitting anything.
>>
>> Anyway, those results are really interesting !
>>
>> Charly
>>
>>     
>
> a pacman which sends informations home - unasked?! are you serious? that
> would be a data privacy horror! i don't want to have to observe pacman's
> traffic the whole time fearing leaks. a feature/bug like that would
> rather raise a huge scandal than appreciation. i have no doubt on this.
>
> an effort on trying to collect helpful data from users (or at least
> those who want to do so) was pkgstat, which is currently heavy
> discussed, as you surely have noticed.
>
> regards
> Hubert Grzeskowiak
>   
Uhm... he said not asking for permission would be _purely statisticly_  
most valuable but he explicitly mentioned it would be more ethically 
correct to ask for permission.
Dieter
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