[arch-general] Alternative init system proposal

Bardur Arantsson spam at scientician.net
Sat Feb 13 15:41:42 UTC 2016


On 02/13/2016 04:17 PM, João Miguel wrote:
>>> I feel it pertinent to point out that a different rolling-release
>>> distrobution ( http://www.voidlinux.eu/ ) does not use systemd, openrc, or
>>> sysvinit. Void Linux uses runit exclusively, and thus patches projects like
>>> KDE4 and Gnome3 to work without systemd (I don't mention KDE5 since nobody
>>> has cared enough yet to put in the effort).
>> Well, that's *amazing*... what does it mean for me, the user?
> To me, the user, it means I there is a possibility for an alternative
> init system without the devs having to do anything. It means there are
> people out there working on this and work towards alternatives does not
> need to start from scratch. You're on Linux: you ought not to be only a
> user, but also a contributor, thus "voting" with your actions. That's
> why you're on a mailing list, or at least why I am.

I don't think you've presented any plausible "use case" except "I want
to be different" -- which is fine, btw, but shouldn't drive development
decisions in the large.

I mean, if you really want to you can still write your own /sbin/init,
but I'm not seeing the point here.

(If your goal is to *learn*, then yes $DEITY yes, do that, but for
practical things... you need some more concrete and tangible goals to
challenge the decision of systemd-only for Arch Linux.)

Regards,


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