[arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

Jelle van der Waa jelle at vdwaa.nl
Wed Nov 3 08:31:02 UTC 2021


Hi,

On 03/11/2021 04:03, Billy Morgan via arch-general wrote:
> Thank you Emil for the response.
> 
> Something had to be done. There is 0. I Repeat ZERO communication from the
> devs and maintainers.
> 
> I don't mean to be rude. I love Arch. I do this out of care. If
> embarrassment is what it takes to actually get some movement, some
> communication then so be it.

I'm sorry but your tone is rude and as the mail only contains a link 
it's just causing drama / sensation.

> This has been a problem that has been building for a long time and seems to
> just be getting worse not better. LET US (community) HELP YOU! Talk to us.

> Since Reddit is cucked, please see the thread I created on 4chan for actual
> discussion:
> https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/84124691
> <https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/84124691#p84125961>
> 
> There have been allegations brought up of the Gnome maintainer saying they
> were too busy playing Fortnight or some other game to care. If true, that
> is not acceptable. Maintainers should not be able to hold packages hostage
> for the sake of fame.

I'm highly skeptical of any "discussion" on 4chan are being made in good 
faith, but making personal allegations is crossing the line. It's simply 
not acceptable on this mailing lists. So you are now moderated, as I 
have good faith in the rest of the list knows how to hold a civil 
discussion.

> Even if not true, the issue still stands of packages being held hostage.

The point is entirely moot, there is no contract between an Arch Linux 
packager and the user. What someone puts his time into is none of your 
business.

> With the upcoming Steam Deck, I'm hoping a huge influx of users come to
> GNU+Linux. We need to be at our best or everyone will crawl back to the
> duopoly that is Microsoft Windows and Apple macOS. This is our current shot
> to actually make a dent in the computing worlds usage %. Games are what
> push technological advancement forward. The more users we have = the more
> game dev support we have which might make Nvidia actually take GNU+Linux
> seriously.

That's a very optimistic view and for new users Fedora might be a better 
fit.

Greetings,

Jelle van der Waa
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