From announce at archlinux.org Mon Mar 2 14:02:57 2009 From: announce at archlinux.org (Recent News Updates) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:02:57 -0000 Subject: [arch-announce] xorg-server 1.6.0 in testing Message-ID: <20090302190258.0377229D66@gerolde.archlinux.org> The upcoming version of xorg-server will have a lot of workarounds and patches removed. Doing so, the package becomes easier to understand, as even its maintainer has no idea what is happening anymore. When upgrading to xorg-server-1.6, you will see these file conflicts on most systems: error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting files) xorg-server: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so exists in filesystem xorg-server: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so exists in filesystem It's safe and advised to overwrite these files. The symlinks were previously created from post_install by the xorg-server and nvidia-utils packages. It is advised to install xorg-server first by using "pacman -Sf xorg-server", after which you can upgrade the rest of your system. This release of xorg-server requires a rebuild of all video and input drivers. Older drivers will fail to load with an ABI mismatch. Drivers in our repositories will receive an update to match the xorg-server ABI. Nvidia has updated their latest drivers with support for this version of xorg-server. AMD does not support xorg-server-1.6 yet in their Catalyst drivers. AMD users are advised to switch to the xf86-video-ati or xf86-video-radeonhd drivers instead, or keep any X.Org related updates on hold via IgnorePkg in pacman.conf. This can be done by putting xorg-server in IgnorePkg in pacman.conf. All other updates should have conflicts set, so it will be clear which additional packages should be added to the IgnorePkg list on your system. Note that there will be no support for older versions of xorg-server when this version moves to extra. URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/436/ From announce at archlinux.org Thu Mar 5 10:03:01 2009 From: announce at archlinux.org (Recent News Updates) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:03:01 -0000 Subject: [arch-announce] Newsletter for March, 2009 Message-ID: <20090305150301.418492A0FB@gerolde.archlinux.org> The Arch Linux Newsletter team is proud to announce the Newsletter for February 2009. To discuss this newsletter, click here. To read past issues of the Arch Linux Newsletter, here they are. URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/437/ From binky at archlinux.us Thu Mar 5 22:54:18 2009 From: binky at archlinux.us (BinkyTheClown) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 22:54:18 -0500 Subject: [arch-announce] Newsletter for March, 2009 In-Reply-To: <20090305150301.418492A0FB@gerolde.archlinux.org> References: <20090305150301.418492A0FB@gerolde.archlinux.org> Message-ID: <67a2b9d90903051954k6444511y503939393aca7588@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/5 Recent News Updates > The Arch Linux Newsletter team is proud to announce the Newsletter > for February 2009. To discuss this newsletter, click here. To read > past issues of the Arch Linux Newsletter, here they are. > > URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/437/ > _______________________________________________ > arch-announce mailing list > arch-announce at archlinux.org > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce > Am I the only one that is receiving ugly html tags in the newsletter? From vertimyst at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 23:03:48 2009 From: vertimyst at gmail.com (Vertimyst) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:03:48 -0500 Subject: [arch-announce] Newsletter for March, 2009 In-Reply-To: <67a2b9d90903051954k6444511y503939393aca7588@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090305150301.418492A0FB@gerolde.archlinux.org> <67a2b9d90903051954k6444511y503939393aca7588@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Nope. I'm fairly certain I get them every time the newsletter comes out. Or wait - do you mean directly /in/ the newsletter (not this email)? If so, then it looks fine to me. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:54 PM, BinkyTheClown wrote: > > 2009/3/5 Recent News Updates > > > The Arch Linux Newsletter team is proud to announce the Newsletter > > for February 2009. To discuss this newsletter, click here. To read > > past issues of the Arch Linux Newsletter, here they are. > > > > URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/437/ > > _______________________________________________ > > arch-announce mailing list > > arch-announce at archlinux.org > > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce > > > Am I the only one that is receiving ugly html tags in the newsletter? > _______________________________________________ > arch-announce mailing list > arch-announce at archlinux.org > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce From binky at archlinux.us Thu Mar 5 23:29:50 2009 From: binky at archlinux.us (BinkyTheClown) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:29:50 -0500 Subject: [arch-announce] Newsletter for March, 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <20090305150301.418492A0FB@gerolde.archlinux.org> <67a2b9d90903051954k6444511y503939393aca7588@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <67a2b9d90903052029t7e91503bg233de803a8b35306@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/5 Vertimyst > Nope. I'm fairly certain I get them every time the newsletter comes out. > > Or wait - do you mean directly /in/ the newsletter (not this email)? > If so, then it looks fine to me. I mean this e-mail. It is very annoying. > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:54 PM, BinkyTheClown wrote: > > > > 2009/3/5 Recent News Updates > > > > > The Arch Linux Newsletter team is proud to announce the Newsletter > > > for February 2009. To discuss this newsletter, click here. To > read > > > past issues of the Arch Linux Newsletter, here they are. > > > > > > URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/437/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > arch-announce mailing list > > > arch-announce at archlinux.org > > > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce > > > > > Am I the only one that is receiving ugly html tags in the newsletter? > > _______________________________________________ > > arch-announce mailing list > > arch-announce at archlinux.org > > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce > _______________________________________________ > arch-announce mailing list > arch-announce at archlinux.org > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce > From vertimyst at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 23:33:46 2009 From: vertimyst at gmail.com (Vertimyst) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:33:46 -0500 Subject: [arch-announce] Newsletter for March, 2009 In-Reply-To: <67a2b9d90903052029t7e91503bg233de803a8b35306@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090305150301.418492A0FB@gerolde.archlinux.org> <67a2b9d90903051954k6444511y503939393aca7588@mail.gmail.com> <67a2b9d90903052029t7e91503bg233de803a8b35306@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: AFAIK email doesn't support HTML formatting, but correct me if I'm wrong. Could be that when the email is typed up (using mailman, I assume? I don't know a lot about mailing lists) it's done in some other environment. Anyway, probably not a good idea to be sending these to arch-announce, I'm sure that's annoying as well. :P On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:29 PM, BinkyTheClown wrote: > 2009/3/5 Vertimyst > >> Nope. ? I'm fairly certain I get them every time the newsletter comes out. >> >> Or wait - do you mean directly /in/ the newsletter (not this email)? >> If so, then it looks fine to me. > > I mean this e-mail. It is very annoying. > >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:54 PM, BinkyTheClown wrote: >> > >> > 2009/3/5 Recent News Updates >> > >> > > The Arch Linux Newsletter team is proud to announce the Newsletter >> > > for February 2009. To discuss this newsletter, click here. To >> read >> > > past issues of the Arch Linux Newsletter, here they are. >> > > >> > > URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/437/ >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > arch-announce mailing list >> > > arch-announce at archlinux.org >> > > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce >> > > >> > Am I the only one that is receiving ugly html tags in the newsletter? >> > _______________________________________________ >> > arch-announce mailing list >> > arch-announce at archlinux.org >> > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce >> _______________________________________________ >> arch-announce mailing list >> arch-announce at archlinux.org >> http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce >> > _______________________________________________ > arch-announce mailing list > arch-announce at archlinux.org > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce > From someonespresence at lavabit.com Thu Mar 5 23:39:17 2009 From: someonespresence at lavabit.com (someone else) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 07:39:17 +0300 Subject: [arch-announce] Newsletter for March, 2009 In-Reply-To: <67a2b9d90903052029t7e91503bg233de803a8b35306@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090305150301.418492A0FB@gerolde.archlinux.org> <67a2b9d90903051954k6444511y503939393aca7588@mail.gmail.com> <67a2b9d90903052029t7e91503bg233de803a8b35306@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090306043917.GA3220@altair4> May be it's an rss2email bug? On 23:29 Thu 05 Mar , BinkyTheClown wrote: > 2009/3/5 Vertimyst > > > Nope. I'm fairly certain I get them every time the newsletter comes out. > > > > Or wait - do you mean directly /in/ the newsletter (not this email)? > > If so, then it looks fine to me. > > I mean this e-mail. It is very annoying. > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:54 PM, BinkyTheClown wrote: > > > > > > 2009/3/5 Recent News Updates > > > > > > > The Arch Linux Newsletter team is proud to announce the Newsletter > > > > for February 2009. To discuss this newsletter, click here. To > > read > > > > past issues of the Arch Linux Newsletter, here they are. > > > > > > > > URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/437/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > arch-announce mailing list > > > > arch-announce at archlinux.org > > > > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce > > > > > > > Am I the only one that is receiving ugly html tags in the newsletter? > > > _______________________________________________ > > > arch-announce mailing list > > > arch-announce at archlinux.org > > > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce > > _______________________________________________ > > arch-announce mailing list > > arch-announce at archlinux.org > > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce > > > _______________________________________________ > arch-announce mailing list > arch-announce at archlinux.org > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce From kesara at bcs.org Thu Mar 5 23:50:37 2009 From: kesara at bcs.org (Kesara Rathnayake) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:20:37 +0530 Subject: [arch-announce] Newsletter for March, 2009 In-Reply-To: <20090306043917.GA3220@altair4> References: <20090305150301.418492A0FB@gerolde.archlinux.org> <67a2b9d90903051954k6444511y503939393aca7588@mail.gmail.com> <67a2b9d90903052029t7e91503bg233de803a8b35306@mail.gmail.com> <20090306043917.GA3220@altair4> Message-ID: <87e06d600903052050x6318fe03if93f3ad2237158e1@mail.gmail.com> Get off the [arch-announce] list... And discuss about this somewhere else. Thx. Kesara 2009/3/6 someone else : > May be it's an rss2email bug? > > On 23:29 Thu 05 Mar ? ? , BinkyTheClown wrote: >> 2009/3/5 Vertimyst >> >> > Nope. ? I'm fairly certain I get them every time the newsletter comes out. >> > >> > Or wait - do you mean directly /in/ the newsletter (not this email)? >> > If so, then it looks fine to me. >> >> I mean this e-mail. It is very annoying. >> >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:54 PM, BinkyTheClown wrote: >> > > >> > > 2009/3/5 Recent News Updates >> > > >> > > > The Arch Linux Newsletter team is proud to announce the Newsletter >> > > > for February 2009. To discuss this newsletter, click here. To >> > read >> > > > past issues of the Arch Linux Newsletter, here they are. >> > > > >> > > > URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/437/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > arch-announce mailing list >> > > > arch-announce at archlinux.org >> > > > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce >> > > > >> > > Am I the only one that is receiving ugly html tags in the newsletter? >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > arch-announce mailing list >> > > arch-announce at archlinux.org >> > > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce >> > _______________________________________________ >> > arch-announce mailing list >> > arch-announce at archlinux.org >> > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> arch-announce mailing list >> arch-announce at archlinux.org >> http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce > > _______________________________________________ > arch-announce mailing list > arch-announce at archlinux.org > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce > From wizzomafizzo at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 02:46:11 2009 From: wizzomafizzo at gmail.com (Callan Barrett) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:46:11 +0900 Subject: [arch-announce] Newsletter for March, 2009 In-Reply-To: <87e06d600903052050x6318fe03if93f3ad2237158e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090305150301.418492A0FB@gerolde.archlinux.org> <67a2b9d90903051954k6444511y503939393aca7588@mail.gmail.com> <67a2b9d90903052029t7e91503bg233de803a8b35306@mail.gmail.com> <20090306043917.GA3220@altair4> <87e06d600903052050x6318fe03if93f3ad2237158e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <33f0f4ec0903052346ga71df2cw7f7d61d5712e7b1d@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/6 Kesara Rathnayake : > bawwwwwwwwwwwwwww bawwwwwwbawwww > bawwwwww bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww > Thx. Somebody call the waaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance. I want to do all my discussion here now. -- Callan Barrett From twillard2 at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 09:19:02 2009 From: twillard2 at gmail.com (Travis Willard) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:19:02 -0500 Subject: [arch-announce] Newsletter for March, 2009 In-Reply-To: <33f0f4ec0903052346ga71df2cw7f7d61d5712e7b1d@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090305150301.418492A0FB@gerolde.archlinux.org> <67a2b9d90903051954k6444511y503939393aca7588@mail.gmail.com> <67a2b9d90903052029t7e91503bg233de803a8b35306@mail.gmail.com> <20090306043917.GA3220@altair4> <87e06d600903052050x6318fe03if93f3ad2237158e1@mail.gmail.com> <33f0f4ec0903052346ga71df2cw7f7d61d5712e7b1d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <53735f360903060619k202f6b98occ729abfaf10804a@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 2:46 AM, Callan Barrett wrote: > 2009/3/6 Kesara Rathnayake : >> bawwwwwwwwwwwwwww bawwwwwwbawwww >> bawwwwww bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww >> Thx. > > Somebody call the waaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance. I want to do all my > discussion here now. Inappropriate. This is not a discussion list. Take your discussion elsewhere. http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce "This mailing list is for official announcements for the Arch Linux distribution. This is NOT a discussion list, so please do not abuse it." From wakeup at erehwon.de Fri Mar 6 10:54:50 2009 From: wakeup at erehwon.de (wakeup) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:54:50 +0100 Subject: [arch-announce] Newsletter for March, 2009 In-Reply-To: <67a2b9d90903051954k6444511y503939393aca7588@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090305150301.418492A0FB@gerolde.archlinux.org> <67a2b9d90903051954k6444511y503939393aca7588@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090306155450.GA3953@laila> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 10:54:18PM -0500, BinkyTheClown wrote: > 2009/3/5 Recent News Updates > > > The Arch Linux Newsletter team is proud to announce the Newsletter > > for February 2009. To discuss this newsletter, click here. To read > > past issues of the Arch Linux Newsletter, here they are. > > > > URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/437/ > > _______________________________________________ > > arch-announce mailing list > > arch-announce at archlinux.org > > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce > > > Am I the only one that is receiving ugly html tags in the newsletter? > _______________________________________________ > arch-announce mailing list > arch-announce at archlinux.org > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce second that -- An Ashanti Proverb from Ghana - It is because of beauty, that is why the woman holds her breasts when she runs, not because the breasts are going to fall -Fela Kuti From announce at archlinux.org Mon Mar 9 21:03:02 2009 From: announce at archlinux.org (Recent News Updates) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 01:03:02 -0000 Subject: [arch-announce] Bug Day - Saturday 21st March Message-ID: <20090310010302.1CC5D2A0F7@gerolde.archlinux.org> On Saturday the 21st of March we will be holding a bug day to combat the ever increasing number of reports in our bug tracker. We will clear outdated reports, fix/implement those that already have patches provided or are trivial to fix/implement and discuss the pros and cons of implementing some feature requests. A rough TODO list that you can add to is on the wiki Please join us in #archlinux-bugs on irc.freenode.net during the 21st of March. We live in many different timezones, so hopefully a dev will be present at all times during the day. URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/438/ From announce at archlinux.org Mon Mar 23 19:02:55 2009 From: announce at archlinux.org (Recent News Updates) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:02:55 -0000 Subject: [arch-announce] ATI catalyst support dropped Message-ID: <20090323230256.173792A1F0@gerolde.archlinux.org> As many of you may have noticed, support for the catalyst ATI Linux driver, has been moved to the AUR (Arch Linux User Repository). This was partly due to lack of motivation from the maintainer in charge of the package and lack of support from AMD to the general Linux ecosystem. AMD has been great to the Linux community, and they are constantly improving their support, but they have a long way to go in terms of general Linux distributions support. Officially supported options include the xf86-video-ati and the xf86-video-radeonhd drivers. Both are discussed in the Arch Linux Wiki (search for ATI). Both drivers are high quality, and are constantly improving. I suggest the xf86-video-ati driver as it has been updated more frequently than xf86-video-radeonhd. The catalyst and catalyst-utils packages now reside in AUR, where they have been adopted by user ?draje?. He has updated the package to the 9.4 version that was given to Ubuntu for the release of xorg-server 1.6. These drivers therefore explicitly depend on xorg-server 1.6 from [testing] -- it will soon be transferred to [extra]. Sorry for any inconveniences this may cause you. We do not want to hold xorg-server 1.6 in testing any longer solely because of a closed source driver. URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/439/ From announce at archlinux.org Tue Mar 31 21:03:08 2009 From: announce at archlinux.org (Recent News Updates) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 01:03:08 -0000 Subject: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support Message-ID: <20090401010308.A9F6A2A25A@gerolde.archlinux.org> Recently the developers have been discussing the possibility of adding some additional optimizations to our i686 port to improve multimedia support. This would involve reducing the compatibility with older systems. As some of you may have heard ([1], Google translation [2]), this discussion has resulted in the decision to focus exclusively on the x86_64 port. The overall opinion of the developers is that the x86_64 port is now complete enough to justify this decision and that this is in keeping with Arch's philosophy of supporting current generation hardware. The x86_64 architecture has been available since 2002 (compared to i686 which is from 1995), and we believe most of our i686 users have x86_64 compatible hardware. An official time-line for the deprecation of the i686 port has not been established, but an official announcement needs to be made, as the decision has already been leaked to the ArchLinux-BR community. However, it is likely that major updates (GNOME, KDE, Xorg, etc) will not be built for i686 in the immediate future. Users will still be able to build packages for i686 packages using ABS. As most of the architecture specific patches are for x86_64, this should be relatively pain free. [1] http://groups.google.com/group/archlinux-br/browse_thread/thread/d1b6075adf9eba2d [2] http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Farchlinux-br%2Fbrowse_thread%2Fthread%2Fd1b6075adf9eba2d&sl=pt&tl=en&history_state0= URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/440/ From fukawi2 at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 21:16:57 2009 From: fukawi2 at gmail.com (Phillip Smith) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:16:57 +1100 Subject: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support In-Reply-To: <20090401010308.A9F6A2A25A@gerolde.archlinux.org> References: <20090401010308.A9F6A2A25A@gerolde.archlinux.org> Message-ID: <33be1b4c0903311816v506c6de4nc2c1b3e8fdc1e085@mail.gmail.com> 2009/4/1 Recent News Updates > > this discussion has resulted in the decision to focus exclusively on the x86_64 port. I LOL'ed :D