[arch-dev-public] [signoff] initscripts-2011.07.1-1

[Dan McGee]

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Tom Gundersen <teg at jklm.no> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Ionut Biru <ibiru at archlinux.org> wrote:
>> On 07/26/2011 05:43 AM, Evangelos Foutras wrote:
>>>
>>> On 25 July 2011 23:51, Tom Gundersen<teg at jklm.no>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The VERBOSE parameter no longer has an effect, use the kernel's
>>>> loglevel= parameter instead. Most p
>>>
>>> I don't like this change. While you say there's a way to make it less
>>> verbose, after only merging the changes to rc.conf, dmesg output will
>>> get interleaved with initscripts output during boot, which looks
>>> horrible: http://imgur.com/a/wbG9z
>>>
>>> No signoff. :>
>>
>> i'm with you in this. kernel logs are in the middle of starting daemons.
>> hate it
>
> I agree that the kernel default is annoying, but it _is_ the upstream
> default, and there is a known workaround (boot with "quiet"), so I
> don't want to keep hacking around this in initscripts.
>
> Luckily, my stubbornness prompted Dave to do the right thing, and
> submit a kernel patch to allow the default to be set to something
> sensible at compile-time: <https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/7/26/227>.
> Hopefully this means that the problem will be solved upstream soon.

As great as this all is:
1) it isn't upstream yet, so you're forcing a patched package (which
we don't like to do)
2) it requires every custom kernel to match the Arch default level of
4 for initscripts output to not look like ass

So I'm all for the upstream patch, but I'm not so sold on the removal
of this from initscripts. We're breaking a lot of established setups
here.

-Dan