[aur-general] Remove a few packages

[Maxime Gauduin]

On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Anatol Pomozov <anatol.pomozov at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi
>
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Maxime Gauduin <alucryd at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Maxime Gauduin <alucryd at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Nowaker <enwukaer at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  The gemname is 'rubysdl' http://rubygems.org/gems/rubysdl, the
> package
> >>>>> name should be 'ruby-$gemname'. The question should go to upstream
> >>>>> developers - why do they use "ruby" prefix in their gem names if the
> >>>>> gems are for ruby only anyway.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>  Well, sometimes upstream is wrong, it does not mean we should follow
> them
> >>>> blindly.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> The project name is "Ruby/SDL", and gem name is "rubysdl". We should
> not
> >>> say the upstream is wrong - there's no place to be right or wrong here.
> >>> It's how they named the library and we should respect this.
> >>>
> >>> There is no "sdl" gem in rubygems.org repo, so anyone can upload a gem
> >>> by that name at any time. "ruby-sdl" in AUR should be reserved to
> "sdl" gem
> >>> only, so I agree with anatolik (OP).
> >>>
> >>> But this is just an ideological argument... Practically, anatolik is a
> >>> maintainer of ruby-sdl and his gems in AUR follow his own guideline of
> >>> ruby-$gemname. [1] This is also an official guideline. [2] Although
> these
> >>> guidelines have recently been edited by anatolik, the very first
> version of
> >>> these guidelines [2] also say the naming convention is ruby-$gemname.
> >>> Therefore, anatolik shouldn't be denied the package rename/merge
> regardless
> >>> of anyone finding the package name silly. ;-)
> >>>
> >>> [1]: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?K=anatolik&SeB=m&O=250&PP=50
> >>> [2]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ruby_Gem_Package_Guidelines
> >>> [3]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Ruby_Gem_
> >>> Package_Guidelines&diff=64416&oldid=64415
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>> Damian Nowak
> >>> StratusHost
> >>> www.AtlasHost.eu
> >>>
> >>
> >> This is no ideological argument, just common sense. Say you have a dog,
> >> would you call it dog-doggy? Sounds ridiculous right? Why would you
> call a
> >> ruby package ruby-rubylib then?
> >>
> >> FYI, other distros offering this package call it 'ruby-sdl' [1].
> >>
> >> You also seem to forget that the AUR is managed by TUs and they have the
> >> final say. Mind you, I'm not abusing my status here, if other TU think
> I'm
> >> in the wrong, I'll gladly sit by idly and ignore atrocious names like
> >> ruby-ruby-protocol-buffers (from the wiki page). I for one do not
> approve
> >> of the naming guideline, 'ruby-' should only be prepended to libraries
> when
> >> it makes sense, and versions should be appended without the leading
> hyphen,
> >> as you can find in the official repos [2].
> >>
> >>
> >> [1] http://pkgs.org/search/?query=ruby-sdl&type=smart
> >> [2] https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/wxgtk2.8/
> >>
> >> --
> >> Maxime
> >>
> >
> > Oh, as for someone uploading a sdl gem, although higly unlikely, could
> be a
> > rewrite of the current implementation. Then, and only then,
> 'ruby-rubysdl'
> > could be justified.
>
> I created a thread called "Ruby gem packages in Arch" please continue
> discussion there. I've put my arguments in the first message
> 1) avoid name collisions
>

Who in their right mind would upload foo and ruby-foo and/or rubyfoo on
rubygems.org at the same time? Say someone did, I now know for a fact it's
possible because people seem to consider it, even then, how often will you
face this case, 2, maybe 3 times? I'm not sure adding a few exceptions in a
script is that hard.


> 2) make ruby packages maintenance more scriptable
>

If you can't be bothered, why not use rubygem directly?

That said, sth along the lines:

IF application THEN strip '^ruby-' from $gemname (keep ruby if there's no
hyphen, as in rubyripper for example)
ELSE strip '^ruby' or '^ruby-' then prepend 'ruby-' to $gemname

Add to this a fairly simple list of gems which are actually applications
and BAM, there is your script. BTW, seems like pretty basic script stuff to
me.

>
> If nobody wants to merge 'ruby-sdl' then I am fine, I'll just disown
> it and let somebody else maintain it.
>

Why start a discussion then, if your answer to "I don't agree with you" is
"Fine, still I'll do what I want and make AUR even more of a joke than it
already is by having duplicate crap and ridiculous names"?

Anyway, have fun doing as you please, I'm not starting a one-man crusade
here, I have more important stuff to do.

Cheers,
-- 
Maxime