[aur-requests] [PRQ#25832] Orphan Request for tangram

[Morten Linderud]

On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 09:49:17AM -0400, David Yamnitsky wrote:
> Hi, can you please provide an explanation for why this case was decided this way? I was not aware that it is against the AUR rules to publish new software on an orphaned AUR package.

Generally speaking it's which upstream came first. In this case yours haven't
even been around for a month while the original project is alive and healthy 2
years running.

If you where to replace the AUR package the upstream should be dead and more
people should be associating the project name with the new one instead of the
one that came before.

But this is a case-by-case basis decision.

Squatting the package after it's being disowned without even bothering to reply
on the thread is not fine, please don't do that.

-- 
Morten Linderud
PGP: 9C02FF419FECBE16

> > On May 30, 2021, at 9:25 AM, Morten Linderud <foxboron at archlinux.org> wrote:
> > 
> > I can't set people as maintainers.
> > 
> > I'll force disown the package and if they adopt it again I'll suspend the
> > account with a warning.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Morten Linderud
> > PGP: 9C02FF419FECBE16
> > 
> >> On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 03:21:37PM +0200, Sonny Piers wrote:
> >> My requested was accepted but David re-took ownership 1 minute after being
> >> disowned.
> >> 
> >> Foxboron, could you set yochananmarqos
> >> <https://aur.archlinux.org/account/yochananmarqos> as owner for tangram
> >> <https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/tangram/> so that we can all move on?
> >> 
> >> Thank you.
> >> 
> >>> On lun., mai 24 2021 at 16:32:01 +0200, Sonny Piers <sonny at fastmail.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>> 
> >>> David is unresponsive, can a trusted AUR user have a look at this
> >>> request please?
> >>> 
> >>> tdlr: I created the tangram aur package for my app
> >>> <https://github.com/sonnyp/tangram> , I orphaned the package in the hope
> >>> that someone would take over, David took the name for his own
> >>> application. Printed magazine still refer to yay -S tangram to install
> >>> my app on Arch.
> >>> I would like for tangram to point back to my app which is currently
> >>> under tangram-web on aur.
> >>> 
> >>> Thank you
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On dim., mai 16 2021 at 16:28:34 +0200, Sonny Piers <sonny at fastmail.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Hello David,
> >>>> 
> >>>> I don't know but I would appreciate if there was no need to bring
> >>>> that up considering the issue I mentioned in my email.
> >>>> 
> >>>>>> Unfortunately this is causing issues as instructions to install
> >>>>>> Tangram through AUR still exists in the wild, including in printed
> >>>>>> paper magazine such as Linux magazine, for example
> >>>>>> https://www.linux <https://www.linux/>-
> >>>>>> magazine.com/Issues/2020/235/Tangram "yay -S tangram".
> >>>> 
> >>>> Would renaming your Tangram be such an issue?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>> 
> >>>> On dim., mai 16 2021 at 09:01:05 -0400, David Yamnitsky
> >>>> <david at yamnitsky.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Sonny, I am sorry for not responding to your email sooner.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> What is the AUR’s policy regarding replacing software on
> >>>>> orphaned packages? Is that disallowed?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> On May 16, 2021, at 6:21 AM, notify at aur.archlinux.org
> >>>>>> <mailto:notify at aur.archlinux.org> wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> sonny [1] filed an orphan request for tangram [2]:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> The current maintainer of the package has replaced the
> >>>>>> package with
> >>>>>> his own software.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> It is causing issues as instructions to install tangram from AUR
> >>>>>> exists in the wild - including in paper magazine.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> We would like this package to be orphaned so that the
> >>>>>> maintainer of
> >>>>>> tangram-web can reinstate the original purpose of this aur
> >>>>>> package.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I got in touch with them with the following email but received no
> >>>>>> answer so far.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Hello David,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> My name is Sonny, I'm the author of Tangram
> >>>>>> <https://github.com/sonnyp/tangram> and the original
> >>>>>> submitter to the
> >>>>>> AUR package <https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/tangram/> .
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I stopped using Arch Linux and hoped that someone would step in to
> >>>>>> maintain the AUR package. Someone has but couldn't use the tangram
> >>>>>> package anymore so they published it under tangram-web
> >>>>>> <https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/tangram-web/>
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Unfortunately this is causing issues as instructions to install
> >>>>>> Tangram through AUR still exists in the wild, including in printed
> >>>>>> paper magazine such as Linux magazine, for example
> >>>>>> https://www.linux <https://www.linux/>-
> >>>>>> magazine.com/Issues/2020/235/Tangram "yay -S tangram".
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I would be really grateful if you would publish your
> >>>>>> application on
> >>>>>> aur under a different name and allow the maintainer of
> >>>>>> tangram-web to
> >>>>>> take over ownership of tangram .
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Cheers!
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> [1] <https://aur.archlinux.org/account/sonny/>
> >>>>>> [2] <https://aur.archlinux.org/pkgbase/tangram/>
> >> 
> > 
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